Very Talented veterans has changed into Team Defeat and still is one of the strongest foreign clans. It only participates in few leagues but fields a very strong line-up.
The team was founded by JoeKim, Scan and Tesla in April 2011. It recruited mostly players from Northern America and Korea at first. In the following months several tournaments were held to scout for new recruitments.
The public image of the veteran's is quite negative, due to the history of JoeKim and Scan. Both have been caught abusing in several tournaments and leagues. The biggest upset involved JoeKim abusing his admin position for Clan League, when he promoted his new found clan in its first season directly into a higher division. Often the other players are associated with these scandals, even when they were not related to the clan's past.